{"id":910,"date":"2010-03-01T12:00:33","date_gmt":"2010-03-01T16:00:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/?p=910"},"modified":"2010-03-01T16:08:50","modified_gmt":"2010-03-01T20:08:50","slug":"timesherald","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/2010\/03\/01\/timesherald\/","title":{"rendered":"Times Herald-Record asks: Who gets to count inmates?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Keith Goldberg writes about the effort to end prison-based gerrymandering in New York State in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.recordonline.com\/apps\/pbcs.dll\/article?AID=\/20100301\/NEWS\/3010323\/-1\/SITEMAP\">Times Herald-Record<\/a> (Orange County, NY). On Feb 19, the paper&#8217;s editorial board said that &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.recordonline.com\/apps\/pbcs.dll\/article?AID=\/20100219\/OPINION\/2190318\/\">a politician should be embarrassed to claim that people held in prisons should count as constituents<\/a>&#8221; and called for the state to pass legislation to end the practice of padding legislative districts with prisons.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe editorial concluded with the <a href=\"\/news\/2010\/02\/19\/votingcontex\/\">pessimistic prediction<\/a> that a lawsuit would be necessary to end prison-based gerrymandering, and today&#8217;s article takes on <span class=\"pullquote\">the legal and political arguments that are holding up reform<\/span>.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.recordonline.com\/apps\/pbcs.dll\/article?AID=\/20100301\/NEWS\/3010323\/-1\/SITEMAP\">whole article<\/a> is worth reading, but the end is excellent:<\/p>\n<p class=\"quote\">Wagner admits some enthusiasm over the bill is partisan. But he says the issue shouldn&#8217;t be; [Republican Senator John J.] Bonacic and upstate senators of non-prison districts should want change, too. &#8220;John Bonacic may have about 2 percent prisoners in his district, but Betty Little (R-Queensbury) has 5 percent,&#8221; Wagner says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quote\">Politics aside, Bonacic believes state prisoners should be counted differently. He&#8217;d like prisoners to declare what community they&#8217;re from. He also thinks those serving life or long-term sentences should be counted where they&#8217;re jailed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quote\">And he&#8217;d like the conversation to include other transient groups, such as college students and second homeowners. &#8220;If you want to resolve the residence issue, do it for everybody,&#8221; Bonacic says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quote\">Wagner says Bonacic&#8217;s ideas have merit. He also admits that legislative-based gerrymandering &#8212; which Bonacic says he&#8217;s challenged for years &#8212; is a larger sore spot. Still, Wagner says the prison bill would make things more honest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quote\">Prisoners may be pawns in the current system, but Wagner says their neighbors are the bigger victims.<\/p>\n<p class=\"quote\">&#8220;My neighbor hits me over the head and robs me, he goes to a jail in another district,&#8221; Wagner says. &#8220;Now, you&#8217;re going to dilute my vote by counting him in another district, too?&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Orange County paper addresses the political log-jam that keeps prison-based gerrymandering on the books in New York State.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-910","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-shorts"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/910","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=910"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/910\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=910"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=910"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=910"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.prisonersofthecensus.org\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=910"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}